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	<title>Comments on: Opinion: How to Save GEORGE the Wayward Bus</title>
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		<title>By: Dan Maller</title>
		<link>http://fallschurchtimes.com/2036/opinion-how-to-save-george-the-wayward-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-430</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Maller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this forum.  I am determined find a way to preserve the system so we can make a decisive transition to something that would work and be a better representation of our community values.  I believe that these 40 passenger diesel city buses are absolutely wrong for our needs, so once we get beyond the immediate crisis we need a medium and long-term plan that provides service using smaller vehicles powered by CNG, electricity, hydrogen, compressed air, horses, dogs, strapping Ukranian lads, or whatever.

There appears to be a strong consensus that Falls Church can not afford to operate the GEORGE system in the current fashion, and that the value added for residents is far less than the cost.  My opinion is that we should be able to come up with a plan that provides the bulk of the benefit at a fraction of the cost, or we have no business in the transit business. I am actively working to come up with the outline of a plan and I would welcome any feedback on this site or by email to dmaller@fallschurchva.gov. I would hope to have at least one brainstorming session (formal or informal) including George users prior to recommending anything formally.

The short-term options are terminate the program entirely at 6/30/09 or to find ways to reduce the subsidy to a number that the community would support [a tax increase for or alternative program cuts].  My starting suggestion is a 1/2¢ property tax increase which would provide ~$175k, combined with a very serious and decisive look at the structure of the program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this forum.  I am determined find a way to preserve the system so we can make a decisive transition to something that would work and be a better representation of our community values.  I believe that these 40 passenger diesel city buses are absolutely wrong for our needs, so once we get beyond the immediate crisis we need a medium and long-term plan that provides service using smaller vehicles powered by CNG, electricity, hydrogen, compressed air, horses, dogs, strapping Ukranian lads, or whatever.</p>
<p>There appears to be a strong consensus that Falls Church can not afford to operate the GEORGE system in the current fashion, and that the value added for residents is far less than the cost.  My opinion is that we should be able to come up with a plan that provides the bulk of the benefit at a fraction of the cost, or we have no business in the transit business. I am actively working to come up with the outline of a plan and I would welcome any feedback on this site or by email to <a href="mailto:dmaller@fallschurchva.gov">dmaller@fallschurchva.gov</a>. I would hope to have at least one brainstorming session (formal or informal) including George users prior to recommending anything formally.</p>
<p>The short-term options are terminate the program entirely at 6/30/09 or to find ways to reduce the subsidy to a number that the community would support [a tax increase for or alternative program cuts].  My starting suggestion is a 1/2¢ property tax increase which would provide ~$175k, combined with a very serious and decisive look at the structure of the program.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Breiling</title>
		<link>http://fallschurchtimes.com/2036/opinion-how-to-save-george-the-wayward-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-407</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Breiling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 15:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are less expensive possibilities. 

Here&#039;s one: 

What about seeking a contractor that would use a van (like those used by the Shuttles to the airports) to provide &quot;George&quot; service per schedule and route BUT with service triggered by request by phone, e-mail or twitter at least (say) 20 minutes ahead of the time on the schedule.   For example, if I wanted the George service from East Falls Church Metro that was on the schedule to leave there (if reserved) at say 6 p.m., I would have to request that service no later than say 5:40 p.m.   George would follow the prescribed route and schedule from EFC Metro to my stop.  George would then (a) continue on the route to drop off any other passenger(s) or  to pick up any other passnger(s) on the route, or (b) return to base until resuming the next &quot;on call&quot; run per scheduled availability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are less expensive possibilities. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s one: </p>
<p>What about seeking a contractor that would use a van (like those used by the Shuttles to the airports) to provide &#8220;George&#8221; service per schedule and route BUT with service triggered by request by phone, e-mail or twitter at least (say) 20 minutes ahead of the time on the schedule.   For example, if I wanted the George service from East Falls Church Metro that was on the schedule to leave there (if reserved) at say 6 p.m., I would have to request that service no later than say 5:40 p.m.   George would follow the prescribed route and schedule from EFC Metro to my stop.  George would then (a) continue on the route to drop off any other passenger(s) or  to pick up any other passnger(s) on the route, or (b) return to base until resuming the next &#8220;on call&#8221; run per scheduled availability.</p>
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		<title>By: Save GEORGE Bus, Says Village Preservation Society : Falls Church Times</title>
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		<dc:creator>Save GEORGE Bus, Says Village Preservation Society : Falls Church Times</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 01:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] See also: &#8220;How to Save GEORGE, the Wayward Bus&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] See also: &#8220;How to Save GEORGE, the Wayward Bus&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Falls Church Insider &#187; The GEORGE Bus Situation</title>
		<link>http://fallschurchtimes.com/2036/opinion-how-to-save-george-the-wayward-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-391</link>
		<dc:creator>The Falls Church Insider &#187; The GEORGE Bus Situation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] week George Southern (no relation to GEORGE bus) wrote over at the Falls Church Times that the City of Falls Church GEORGE bus system was potentially on the chopping block.  At last [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] week George Southern (no relation to GEORGE bus) wrote over at the Falls Church Times that the City of Falls Church GEORGE bus system was potentially on the chopping block.  At last [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Buschow</title>
		<link>http://fallschurchtimes.com/2036/opinion-how-to-save-george-the-wayward-bus/comment-page-1/#comment-383</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry Buschow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 15:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We must remember the environmental savings associated with the GEORGE.  For instance, convert the number of trips to carbon saved.  For example, if we assume the average length of the ride is 1.5 miles, and that cars in Falls Church average 20 mpg in city driving (rough estimates), then use of the George has saved (70,000 X 1.5)/ 20=   5250 gallons of gasoline.  Since each gallon of gasoline adds about 19.6 lbs of CO2, then use of the George has prevented approximately 102,900 lbs., or 51.45 tons of  CO2 from going into the air.  

Using Metro has also added to the costs of the system.  It should be combined with an independent system such as ARTS to reduce the costs and extend the service from West FAlls Church to Rossyln...There are many ways to enhance the system while reducing costs.  The question now is, is it too late..........????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We must remember the environmental savings associated with the GEORGE.  For instance, convert the number of trips to carbon saved.  For example, if we assume the average length of the ride is 1.5 miles, and that cars in Falls Church average 20 mpg in city driving (rough estimates), then use of the George has saved (70,000 X 1.5)/ 20=   5250 gallons of gasoline.  Since each gallon of gasoline adds about 19.6 lbs of CO2, then use of the George has prevented approximately 102,900 lbs., or 51.45 tons of  CO2 from going into the air.  </p>
<p>Using Metro has also added to the costs of the system.  It should be combined with an independent system such as ARTS to reduce the costs and extend the service from West FAlls Church to Rossyln&#8230;There are many ways to enhance the system while reducing costs.  The question now is, is it too late&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.????</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Theisz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon Theisz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 02:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This discussion pretty much nails the GEORGE issue for me.  Great work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This discussion pretty much nails the GEORGE issue for me.  Great work!</p>
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