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		<title>By: Arlington ex-pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arlington ex-pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 15:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your argument that Arlington would leap at the chance to incorporate Falls Church is astonishingly weak.  What&#039;s in it for Arlington?  

You wrote that &quot;bureaucracies want to expand. It’s their life blood.&quot;  Not really an argument at all, is it?

You wrote that &quot;it would make the county that much bigger and that much more important.&quot;  How much more important?  Falls Church&#039;s population makes up just 0.14% of Virginia.  Arlington&#039;s population would increase by  just 5.5% if it conglomerated Falls Church, and its statewide representation would be unlikely to change in any meaningful way.  

You wrote that Falls Church is &quot;a very desirable community.&quot;  This is all relative; a person living off Foxhall Road might not find Falls Church &quot;desirable&quot; in the least.  And of course we&#039;re talking not about where people choose to live in this discussion, which is what this &quot;desirable&quot; adjective usually describes.  We&#039;re talking about whether swallowing the entire municipality makes sense.  

You wrote &quot;we’re already linked with Arlington: we use their courts... we use their fire and law enforcement services... we use their transportation service to run GEORGE bus; etc.&quot;  None of which are reasons why Arlington should seek to incorporate Falls Church.  In fact, these are good reasons why Arlington should seek to preserve the status quo, as I&#039;d be surprised if the County were not compensated by Falls Church for these services. 
 
Your list actually has but one element: water.  But Arlington gets its water from the same place Falls Church does - the Washington Aqueduct.  So why would Arlington covet Falls Church&#039;s water?  Unless there&#039;s a controversy about shares coming from the aqueduct (a la the Colorado River), this factor  - Falls Church&#039;s big attraction - is immaterial to Arlington. 

The more specific question is: how would such a combination benefit Arlington&#039;s voters?

&lt;strong&gt;GEORGE SOUTHERN RESPONDS:&lt;/strong&gt; I would refer the writer to the earlier comment by John Bennett (above) which references strong support for this concept from Paul Ferguson, currently the Clerk of the Circuit Court of Arlington County and the City of Falls Church, and who was a member of the Arlington County Board for 11 years, during which he was Chairman of the Board several times, most recently in 2007.

And please -- these dialogues are so much more meaningful when people identify themselves!

Comments on this article are now closed.

POSTSCRIPT: Readers have let me know I was wrong to close the comments. In my defense, even a town meeting has time limits. But, due to popular demand, comments have been reopened!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your argument that Arlington would leap at the chance to incorporate Falls Church is astonishingly weak.  What&#8217;s in it for Arlington?  </p>
<p>You wrote that &#8220;bureaucracies want to expand. It’s their life blood.&#8221;  Not really an argument at all, is it?</p>
<p>You wrote that &#8220;it would make the county that much bigger and that much more important.&#8221;  How much more important?  Falls Church&#8217;s population makes up just 0.14% of Virginia.  Arlington&#8217;s population would increase by  just 5.5% if it conglomerated Falls Church, and its statewide representation would be unlikely to change in any meaningful way.  </p>
<p>You wrote that Falls Church is &#8220;a very desirable community.&#8221;  This is all relative; a person living off Foxhall Road might not find Falls Church &#8220;desirable&#8221; in the least.  And of course we&#8217;re talking not about where people choose to live in this discussion, which is what this &#8220;desirable&#8221; adjective usually describes.  We&#8217;re talking about whether swallowing the entire municipality makes sense.  </p>
<p>You wrote &#8220;we’re already linked with Arlington: we use their courts&#8230; we use their fire and law enforcement services&#8230; we use their transportation service to run GEORGE bus; etc.&#8221;  None of which are reasons why Arlington should seek to incorporate Falls Church.  In fact, these are good reasons why Arlington should seek to preserve the status quo, as I&#8217;d be surprised if the County were not compensated by Falls Church for these services. </p>
<p>Your list actually has but one element: water.  But Arlington gets its water from the same place Falls Church does &#8211; the Washington Aqueduct.  So why would Arlington covet Falls Church&#8217;s water?  Unless there&#8217;s a controversy about shares coming from the aqueduct (a la the Colorado River), this factor  &#8211; Falls Church&#8217;s big attraction &#8211; is immaterial to Arlington. </p>
<p>The more specific question is: how would such a combination benefit Arlington&#8217;s voters?</p>
<p><strong>GEORGE SOUTHERN RESPONDS:</strong> I would refer the writer to the earlier comment by John Bennett (above) which references strong support for this concept from Paul Ferguson, currently the Clerk of the Circuit Court of Arlington County and the City of Falls Church, and who was a member of the Arlington County Board for 11 years, during which he was Chairman of the Board several times, most recently in 2007.</p>
<p>And please &#8212; these dialogues are so much more meaningful when people identify themselves!</p>
<p>Comments on this article are now closed.</p>
<p>POSTSCRIPT: Readers have let me know I was wrong to close the comments. In my defense, even a town meeting has time limits. But, due to popular demand, comments have been reopened!</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Buschow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry Buschow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A well thought out statement Suzanne.  I believe one day this notion will be more thoroughly explored.  Especially when we need new a $75M+ School.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A well thought out statement Suzanne.  I believe one day this notion will be more thoroughly explored.  Especially when we need new a $75M+ School&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne Fauber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzanne Fauber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 16:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m all for it. Having worked for a planner for many years with Arlington, Fairfax and Falls Church. I believe we do not have the resources here on all levels to sustain the quality of life, schools and economic development necessary to be economically viable. People fear if Arlington gets their hands on us they will make us like the R-B [Rosslyn-Ballston] Corridor development in Arlington. Have no fear, Arlington is much more focused on their targeted Metro Station with very defined walk sheds. They would, however, bring incredible insight to how the City Center development could be reconfigured and planned to be more sensitive to adjacent residents, provide a balanced residential and employment base and bring adequate amenities that would make us all want to hang out there in a scale in keeping with our town.

It would also assist us in having a better quality school system that would offer a wider diversity of classes and activities for the students who need more competition and choice in the arts, sports, languages and sciences.

I know everyone thinks I&#039;m biased and I am. I love living here. I love our scale, but the reality is we are inefficient, expensive to run, and politically ineffective. Criticise me if you must. I can take it. I would be happy to discuss with anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m all for it. Having worked for a planner for many years with Arlington, Fairfax and Falls Church. I believe we do not have the resources here on all levels to sustain the quality of life, schools and economic development necessary to be economically viable. People fear if Arlington gets their hands on us they will make us like the R-B [Rosslyn-Ballston] Corridor development in Arlington. Have no fear, Arlington is much more focused on their targeted Metro Station with very defined walk sheds. They would, however, bring incredible insight to how the City Center development could be reconfigured and planned to be more sensitive to adjacent residents, provide a balanced residential and employment base and bring adequate amenities that would make us all want to hang out there in a scale in keeping with our town.</p>
<p>It would also assist us in having a better quality school system that would offer a wider diversity of classes and activities for the students who need more competition and choice in the arts, sports, languages and sciences.</p>
<p>I know everyone thinks I&#8217;m biased and I am. I love living here. I love our scale, but the reality is we are inefficient, expensive to run, and politically ineffective. Criticise me if you must. I can take it. I would be happy to discuss with anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Buschow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry Buschow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 23:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets see, it was 1939 when the eastern part of Falls Church near East FC Metro decided that taxes were too high and broke off and joined Arlington.  Not as easy to do today.  My only question is, will anybody these days be able to retire in FC and afford it??  Dan makes good sense but we have some large tax issues to survive in order to maintain our &quot;quality of life&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets see, it was 1939 when the eastern part of Falls Church near East FC Metro decided that taxes were too high and broke off and joined Arlington.  Not as easy to do today.  My only question is, will anybody these days be able to retire in FC and afford it??  Dan makes good sense but we have some large tax issues to survive in order to maintain our &#8220;quality of life&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Rankin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Rankin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 01:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is Mr. Maller up for re-election next year or what?  Anyway, I agree with his sentiments.  I&#039;d like to know more about this 50 acres of land around the WFC Metro - which land are you talking about exactly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Mr. Maller up for re-election next year or what?  Anyway, I agree with his sentiments.  I&#8217;d like to know more about this 50 acres of land around the WFC Metro &#8211; which land are you talking about exactly?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Maller</title>
		<link>http://fallschurchtimes.com/9399/man-about-town-why-falls-church-needs-arlington/comment-page-1/#comment-3792</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Maller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 03:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post George, and some very thoughtful comments, but while Arlington is admirable for all of the reasons you state, being a town would probably increase our taxes while decreasing the elements of local control that make our City/town special.  Vienna is a great place to live, but as you point out their taxes are not low, and Fairfax County is facing almost exactly the same fiscal woes as we are, with the same % of commercial tax base so Vienna&#039;s taxes will likely remain higher than ours.  There are many alternative models, and I would suggest Fairfax City is an interesting one, but personally I am not willing to give up on this little experiment in self-government just yet. 

We have tremendous assets (I suppose I&#039;d better say &quot;including without limitation&quot;): a unique and attractive location, fifty acres of land at the WFC Metro, our water system, and a culture of devotion to education that continues to support world class schools.  Our greatest asset may be the people who continue to be attracted to what this City has to offer, and while the challenges are significant, my money is on our ability to overcome them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post George, and some very thoughtful comments, but while Arlington is admirable for all of the reasons you state, being a town would probably increase our taxes while decreasing the elements of local control that make our City/town special.  Vienna is a great place to live, but as you point out their taxes are not low, and Fairfax County is facing almost exactly the same fiscal woes as we are, with the same % of commercial tax base so Vienna&#8217;s taxes will likely remain higher than ours.  There are many alternative models, and I would suggest Fairfax City is an interesting one, but personally I am not willing to give up on this little experiment in self-government just yet. </p>
<p>We have tremendous assets (I suppose I&#8217;d better say &#8220;including without limitation&#8221;): a unique and attractive location, fifty acres of land at the WFC Metro, our water system, and a culture of devotion to education that continues to support world class schools.  Our greatest asset may be the people who continue to be attracted to what this City has to offer, and while the challenges are significant, my money is on our ability to overcome them.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Black</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 16:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The merger of Falls Church with Arlington County along with the completion of the Dulles metro rail  line would increase both the feasibility and probability of major redevelopment of the area around East Falls Church Metro.  Think about it--direct rail and freeway access to downtown DC, two major airports, and Tyson&#039;s Corner, one of the region&#039;s largest suburban retail and office centers.  Such development is likely to be controversial and is something to be considered in making a decision on consolidation with Arlington.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The merger of Falls Church with Arlington County along with the completion of the Dulles metro rail  line would increase both the feasibility and probability of major redevelopment of the area around East Falls Church Metro.  Think about it&#8211;direct rail and freeway access to downtown DC, two major airports, and Tyson&#8217;s Corner, one of the region&#8217;s largest suburban retail and office centers.  Such development is likely to be controversial and is something to be considered in making a decision on consolidation with Arlington.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara Fitzgerald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara Fitzgerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a former Arlington County resident who moved to Falls Church City in 2004, choosing to move from our close-in home to a condo in one of the new mixed-use developments in the city. One of the things that amused me early on was to hear residents of Falls Church City talk about &quot;the Falls Church way&quot; the same way people in Arlington County talk about &quot;the Arlington way.&quot; 

We would have likely stayed in Arlington if we had been able to find the kind of condo we were seeking in the Rosslyn-Ballston corridor, but, at least during the time we were looking, we could not. Having made the move to Falls Church, we greatly appreciate its small-town character in terms of ability to walk to things we need, access to mass transit, etc. It&#039;s a good place for an active retiree to live. 

We can appreciate that the smaller schools of Falls Church are a positive for many people. Because we are now empty-nesters, this is not as important to us as it once was, though we can appreciate the role of good schools in keeping property values strong. 

I think it&#039;s an interesting issue worthy of more discussion and analysis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a former Arlington County resident who moved to Falls Church City in 2004, choosing to move from our close-in home to a condo in one of the new mixed-use developments in the city. One of the things that amused me early on was to hear residents of Falls Church City talk about &#8220;the Falls Church way&#8221; the same way people in Arlington County talk about &#8220;the Arlington way.&#8221; </p>
<p>We would have likely stayed in Arlington if we had been able to find the kind of condo we were seeking in the Rosslyn-Ballston corridor, but, at least during the time we were looking, we could not. Having made the move to Falls Church, we greatly appreciate its small-town character in terms of ability to walk to things we need, access to mass transit, etc. It&#8217;s a good place for an active retiree to live. </p>
<p>We can appreciate that the smaller schools of Falls Church are a positive for many people. Because we are now empty-nesters, this is not as important to us as it once was, though we can appreciate the role of good schools in keeping property values strong. </p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s an interesting issue worthy of more discussion and analysis.</p>
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		<title>By: Teddy Rutledge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teddy Rutledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What say our City Manager?  Does he have the best of both worlds...lives in the County of Arlington and manages the City of Falls Church!  IS the grass greener on the other side, Mr. Shields?

&lt;em&gt;(EDITOR&#039;S RESPONSE: Our understanding is that our City Manager has recently relocated inside the City, in conformity with his job requirement.)&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What say our City Manager?  Does he have the best of both worlds&#8230;lives in the County of Arlington and manages the City of Falls Church!  IS the grass greener on the other side, Mr. Shields?</p>
<p><em>(EDITOR&#8217;S RESPONSE: Our understanding is that our City Manager has recently relocated inside the City, in conformity with his job requirement.)</em></p>
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		<title>By: Gordon Theisz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon Theisz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 01:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is only one place in the entire metro area where a single citizen can have his or her voice heard loudly, and that is Falls Church.  If you want something to change anywhere else, you have to have a chorus of voices.  This takes political movement and will.  In Falls Church, you can just say it and people will hear you. 

I respect George&#039;s well thought out arguments, but I knew what I got when I moved here and I was willing to pay for it.  I still am.  If it takes higher taxes, then that&#039;s what it takes - but there had better be a well thought out reasoning behind it.  No one wants to pay more in tax, but given the choice of joining Arlington or Fairfax, or staying here with our independence, I&#039;d bet people will continue pay to stay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is only one place in the entire metro area where a single citizen can have his or her voice heard loudly, and that is Falls Church.  If you want something to change anywhere else, you have to have a chorus of voices.  This takes political movement and will.  In Falls Church, you can just say it and people will hear you. </p>
<p>I respect George&#8217;s well thought out arguments, but I knew what I got when I moved here and I was willing to pay for it.  I still am.  If it takes higher taxes, then that&#8217;s what it takes &#8211; but there had better be a well thought out reasoning behind it.  No one wants to pay more in tax, but given the choice of joining Arlington or Fairfax, or staying here with our independence, I&#8217;d bet people will continue pay to stay.</p>
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